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Imagine a world where your carpet reduces atmospheric carbon. In this episode, discover how Interface is making this a reality. Liz Minné discusses a range of innovative strategies that redefine our expectations of flooring.
Liz is the Head of Global Sustainability Strategy at Interface and leads the company’s push towards carbon negativity. Armed with a PhD in Environmental Engineering, she also oversees Interface’s global disclosure on environmental metrics.
Dive into the future of sustainable manufacturing as Liz reveals how Interface is pioneering carbon-negative solutions, transforming waste into resources, and radically rethinking production processes to meet ambitious environmental goals.
00:04:35 | “We at interface have really taken the chance to dive into innovation, and one of the amazing things that we came out with […] was this carbon-negative carpet tile.” |
00:04:35 | Innovation at Interface |
00:07:28 | “We had a wonderful effort that was done […] where they were taking rogue fishing nets in the waterways and […] recycling that.” |
00:08:22 | “Over our long history we have offset 6.5 million metric tonnes of carbon. […] Our reduction in carbon footprint for our carpet tile has gone down about 79%.” |
00:10:05 | “We’re going to further invest within our business using that funding that we were using towards carbon offsets […] so that we can drive down our impacts in terms of their actual emissions. So no offsets.” |
00:13:20 | “If you look at our whole product portfolio, 52% of the materials within those products are recycled or bio-based.” |
00:16:22 | Renewable energy |
00:16:42 | “Across the board for our manufacturing, 79% of our energy use is coming from renewable sources.” |
00:17:39 | “Interface likes to be a source of outsized impact. So how can we also impact the places that we’re in to motivate change to lower impacts?” |
00:18:39 | “We’ve looked into how could we create a factory that is indistinguishable from the forest that would have been there.” |
00:20:30 | Flooring in the circular economy |
00:28:50 | “Our post-consumer carpet that came back through this process in 2022 was 4.3 million pounds, and that’s in one year.” |
00:32:48 | Interface as environmental influencer |
00:37:04 | “What we want to do is make people accidental environmentalists. So you did something good for the earth without even realising it.” |
The drive to reduce carbon emissions is accelerating — most noticeably among large corporations. Achieving ‘zero’ carbon, especially for a manufacturer of building products, amounts to a total rethink.
Now imagine that the goal is to be carbon negative and to make products that sequester carbon. How does that journey even begin?
Interface has been a leader in sustainable manufacturing since the 1990s. Today, they are a beacon for low-carbon manufacturing.
Last season, we heard from Nigel Stansfield (Interface’s Chief Innovation and Sustainability Officer) about the company’s long journey to zero impact. In this episode, Liz Minné makes the case for carbon negativity.
Three million years have passed since the amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide was at today’s level. Liz details Interface’s creation of a carbon-negative carpet tile. It’s a product that upends industry standards.
Interface’s breakthrough was developing the CQuest™Bio Backing, a bio-based material that significantly reduces the environmental impact of their carpets.
Many firms achieve carbon neutrality through purchasing offsets. Interface has been part of this trend, offsetting 6.5 million metric tonnes since 2003.
Not content to rely on this strategy alone, Interface has reduced the carbon footprint of their carpet tiles over three decades by about 79%. The remaining emissions have been balanced with carbon credits.
Liz makes a bold announcement on Ecogradia: Starting in April 2024, Interface will stop using carbon offsets, aiming to meet carbon neutrality entirely through innovative practices.
She highlights that 79% of Interface’s energy usage is sourced from renewables, even in countries heavily reliant on coal.
Interface not only uses renewable energy but also strives to be a transformative influence in every location. Their aim is to inspire broader environmental changes wherever they operate.
Their innovative “Factory as a Forest” initiative goes a step further. This endeavour explores how to create a factory with an impact indistinguishable from the natural ecosystem that the facility replaces.
Every year, in the USA alone, over 4 billion pounds of discarded carpets end up in landfills. Against this number, Interface reclaimed 4.3 million pounds of its own products in 2022, looping them back into the production cycle as raw materials for new carpets.
Interface’s dedication to innovation marks a profound shift in industry standards. Their commitment transcends traditional practices, showcasing a path towards true sustainability in manufacturing.
This episode is brought to you by:
The Holcim Foundation for Sustainable Construction The Holcim Foundation helps drive systemic change towards a more sustainable built environment. It was founded in 2003 to define and promote the key principles of sustainability for the construction sector and is committed to accelerating the sector’s transformation so that people and the planet can thrive. The Foundation has investigated various aspects of sustainable construction via a series of roundtables and conferences with international experts. It has also recognised excellent contributions to this field with the Holcim Awards which are considered the world’s most significant competition for sustainable design. Committed to a holistic approach that recognises the equal importance and interdependence of four key goals, the Foundation combines the collective knowledge, ideas, and solutions of our global community of experts with a recognised platform of international competitions to democratise thought leadership for the entire sector. |
The content partner for this episode is:
Interface In 1973, Interface’s founder, Ray Anderson introduced a European carpet tile concept to America, starting a commercial flooring revolution that would spread around the world. Now, Interface is a global leader in modular flooring, offering an integrated collection of carpet tile and resilient flooring that includes premium rugs, luxury vinyl tile (LVT), and nora® rubber. Made with purpose and without compromise, Interface flooring brings more sophisticated design, more performance, more innovation, and more climate progress to interior spaces. Interface’s modular flooring is more than just something you can walk on. Inspired by everything from the restorative nature of biophilic design to science, art, and heritage, Interface pushes trends for more ideas, more inspiration, and more leading the way. It’s design that makes spirits rise and jaws drop. Interface is fully committed to becoming a restorative business. From an original industry-defining goal to make zero negative impact, to realising zero wasn’t enough, to designing with circularity across the board, Interface has continued to show change is possible no matter how improbable. Today, the company is focusing on carbon reductions, not offsets, as it works toward achieving its verified Science Based Targets by 2030 and its goal to become a carbon-negative enterprise by 2040. By working together, setting ambitious Science Based Targets, and investing resources into reducing carbon impact, Interface remains “all in” on becoming a restorative business. W | interface.com |
This episode is brought to you by:
The Holcim Foundation for Sustainable Construction
The Holcim Foundation helps drive systemic change towards a more sustainable built environment. It was founded in 2003 to define and promote the key principles of sustainability for the construction sector and is committed to accelerating the sector’s transformation so that people and the planet can thrive.
The Foundation has investigated various aspects of sustainable construction via a series of roundtables and conferences with international experts. It has also recognised excellent contributions to this field with the Holcim Awards which are considered the world’s most significant competition for sustainable design.
Committed to a holistic approach that recognises the equal importance and interdependence of four key goals, the Foundation combines the collective knowledge, ideas, and solutions of our global community of experts with a recognised platform of international competitions to democratise thought leadership for the entire sector.
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Interface
In 1973, Interface’s founder, Ray Anderson introduced a European carpet tile concept to America, starting a commercial flooring revolution that would spread around the world. Now, Interface is a global leader in modular flooring, offering an integrated collection of carpet tile and resilient flooring that includes premium rugs, luxury vinyl tile (LVT), and nora® rubber.
Made with purpose and without compromise, Interface flooring brings more sophisticated design, more performance, more innovation, and more climate progress to interior spaces. Interface’s modular flooring is more than just something you can walk on.
Inspired by everything from the restorative nature of biophilic design to science, art, and heritage, Interface pushes trends for more ideas, more inspiration, and more leading the way. It’s design that makes spirits rise and jaws drop.
Interface is fully committed to becoming a restorative business. From an original industry-defining goal to make zero negative impact, to realising zero wasn’t enough, to designing with circularity across the board, Interface has continued to show change is possible no matter how improbable.
Today, the company is focusing on carbon reductions, not offsets, as it works toward achieving its verified Science Based Targets by 2030 and its goal to become a carbon-negative enterprise by 2040. By working together, setting ambitious Science Based Targets, and investing resources into reducing carbon impact, Interface remains “all in” on becoming a restorative business.
W | interface.com
Liz Minné, PhD, is the Head of Global Sustainability Strategy at Interface, the global flooring company and sustainability pioneer. Liz and her team lead the implementation of the company’s sustainability strategy, including Interface’s Science Based Targets and goal to being Carbon Negative by 2040.
She also oversees Interface’s global disclosure for investors, customers, and other stakeholders on environmental metrics. Prior to her work at Interface, Liz worked for TK Elevator where she spearheaded the environmental reporting effort for TKE North America.
Liz earned her PhD in Environmental Engineering from Georgia Tech and lives with her husband and dog in Atlanta.
E | liz.minne@interface.com
W | Interface
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00:03:55 | “…Yesterday was Earth Day, and so…” “Earth Day: The Official Site” | EARTHDAY.ORG |
00:04:32 | “…your carpet become carbon negative…” “Net-zero, carbon-neutral, carbon-negative … confused by all the carbon jargon? Then read this” | The Conversation |
00:05:06 | “…what’s called cradle-to-gate…” “Cradle-to-Gate in LCA – What is it & How does it work?” | Ecochain |
00:06:16 | “…that are storing carbon long term…” “What is carbon sequestration?” | National Grid |
00:08:05 | “…by buying credits or offsets…” “The Ultimate Guide to Understanding Carbon Credits” | CarbonCredits.com |
00:13:27 | “…recycled or bio-based…” “The third wave of biomaterials: When innovation meets demand” | McKinsey & Company |
00:07:34 | “…called Net-Works, where they were taking…” “Interface | Net-Works: turning waste nets into carpets” | YouTube |
00:15:10 | “…to as scope one emissions. These are…” “Scope 1 and Scope 2 Inventory Guidance” | US Environmental Protection Agency |
00:15:15 | “…your operations. Scope two are the…” “Scope 1 and Scope 2 Inventory Guidance” | US Environmental Protection Agency |
00:16:36 | “…sourced renewable natural gas in several…” “Alternative Fuels Data Center: Renewable Natural Gas Production” | US Department of Energy |
00:18:36 | “…called Factory as a Forest. So we’ve…” “Factory as a Forest: Reimagining Facilities as Ecosystems” | Interface |
00:20:31 | “…bit about scope three emissions, and these…” “Scope 3 Inventory Guidance” | US Environmental Protection Agency |
00:21:45 | “…with a bitumen backing. And…” “Bitumen” | Britannica |
00:22:36 | “…detailed life cycle assessment process…” “Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) – Everything you need to know” | Ecochain |
00:28:45 | “…as a circular economy. What…” “Circular economy: definition, importance and benefits” | European Parliament |
00:37:55 | “…yet. Embodied carbon or life…” “What is Embodied Carbon?” | US Environmental Protection Agency |
00:35:59 | “…have signed up to Science Based Targets…” “Science Based Targets: Ambitious corporate climate action” | Science Based Targets |
00:38:20 | “…of the GHG emissions of the…” “Overview of Greenhouse Gases” | US Environmental Protection Agency |
00:38:49 | “…’90s, the Mission Zero started with…” “From Mission Zero to Climate Take Back: How Interface is Transforming its Business to Have Zero Negative Impact” | UN Climate Change |
00:39:25 | “…we had a report called “Lessons Learned” that…” “An Early Adopter’s Guide to Sustainability: 5 Lessons Learned” | Sustainable Brands |
00:42:08 | “…in line with the Paris Agreement…” “The Paris Agreement” | UN Climate Action |
00:04:35 | “…We at Interface have really…” “Interface Commercial Carpet Tile & Resilient Flooring” | Interface |
00:19:28 | “…Nigel Stansfield, who I…” “Corporate Governance: Nigel Stansfield” | Interface |
00:33:50 | “…is that Salesforce was actually…” “Salesforce.com” | Britannica Money |
00:38:52 | “…started with Ray Anderson in the…” “About Ray” | The Ray C. Anderson Foundation |
00:40:05 | “…report is Walmart who actually…” “Walmart” | Britannica Money |
00:15:32 | “…plants in Australia and China…” “Australia” | Britannica |
00:15:33 | “…plants in Australia and China…” “China” | Britannica |
00:15:34 | “…USA, Northern Ireland, and the Netherlands…” “United States” | Britannica |
00:15:34 | “…USA, Northern Ireland, and the Netherlands…” “Northern Ireland” | Britannica |
00:15:35 | “…USA, Northern Ireland, and the Netherlands…” “Netherlands” | Britannica |
00:16:56 | “…places like Sweden where the…” “Sweden” | Britannica |
00:20:04 | “…in our Minto factory in Australia…” “Minto” (New South Wales, Australia) | Wikipedia |
00:37:37 | “…of say, Indonesia, present an…” “Indonesia” | Britannica |
There are no design features mentioned in this episode.
00:04:55 | “…was this carbon-negative carpet tile…” “First carbon negative carpet tile” | Innovation in Textiles |
00:06:47 | “…that’s our CQuest™Bio-backed products…” “Backings: Carpet Tile — CQuest™Bio” | Interface |
00:32:29 | “…or our LVT or rubber…” “Backings: LVT — Sound Choice™” | Interface |
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